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Les Chants Magnétiques ( the 1991 Remaster)


Post Posted Sat Oct 07, 2023 6:06 pm
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Once I thought that I have listened to all Magnetic field versions on CD (whether the original 80's or the 97-2014 remasters), till I found out that there was a remster done the year 1991 .
https://www.discogs.com/es/release/1520 ... 3%A9tiques


anyone listened to this remaster? how does it sound? :P
Post Posted Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:21 pm
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Yes, I have it. I have the whole remaster series from that batch, but I remember it was the same as the late 87 remasters. I will post some analytics tomorrow, fun!
Post Posted Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:05 pm
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1982 red label (800 024-2 02):

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Analyzed: Magnetic Fields / Artist: Jean-Michel Jarre
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DR Peak RMS Duration Title [codec]
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DR14 -0.75 dB -17.77 dB 17:53 01 - Magnetic Fields Part 1 [flac]
DR15 -1.75 dB -18.55 dB 3:58 02 - Magnetic Fields Part 2 [flac]
DR19 -3.11 dB -26.01 dB 4:15 03 - Magnetic Fields Part 3 [flac]
DR15 -3.09 dB -21.69 dB 6:17 04 - Magnetic Fields Part 4 [flac]
DR13 -3.84 dB -20.67 dB 3:29 05 - Magnetic Fields Part 5 [flac]
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Number of files: 5
Official DR value: DR15

Sampling rate: 44100 Hz
Average bitrate: 802kbs
Bits per sample: 16 bit

Dr14 T.meter 1.0.16
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1987 CD (824 748-2)

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Analyzed: Magnetic Fields / Artist: Jean Michel Jarre
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DR Peak RMS Duration Title [codec]
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DR12 -0.00 dB -15.67 dB 17:50 01 - Magnetic Fields, Part 1 [flac]
DR15 -0.00 dB -17.82 dB 5:25 02 - Magnetic Fields, Part 2 [flac]
DR15 -4.91 dB -22.94 dB 2:54 03 - Magnetic Fields, Part 3 [flac]
DR15 -0.26 dB -17.76 dB 6:12 04 - Magnetic Fields, Part 4 [flac]
DR13 -1.83 dB -18.01 dB 3:29 05 - Magnetic Fields, Part 5 [flac]
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Number of files: 5
Official DR value: DR14

Sampling rate: 44100 Hz
Average bitrate: 851kbs
Bits per sample: 16 bit

Dr14 T.meter 1.0.16
==============================================================================================


1991 remaster:

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Analyzed: Les Chants Magnetiques (Digitally Remastered) / Artist: Jean Michel Jarre
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DR Peak RMS Duration Title [codec]
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DR12 -0.00 dB -15.67 dB 17:50 01 - Les Chants Magnetiques, Part 1 [flac]
DR15 -0.00 dB -17.82 dB 5:25 02 - Les Chants Magnetiques, Part 2 [flac]
DR15 -4.91 dB -22.94 dB 2:54 03 - Les Chants Magnetiques, Part 3 [flac]
DR15 -0.26 dB -17.76 dB 6:12 04 - Les Chants Magnetiques, Part 4 [flac]
DR13 -1.83 dB -18.01 dB 3:29 05 - Les Chants Magnetiques, Part 5 [flac]
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Number of files: 5
Official DR value: DR14

Sampling rate: 44100 Hz
Average bitrate: 851kbs
Bits per sample: 16 bit

Dr14 T.meter 1.0.16
==============================================================================================


Bonus:

1997 remaster:

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Analyzed: Les Chants magnétiques [1997 remaster] / Artist: Jean‐Michel Jarre
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DR Peak RMS Duration Title [codec]
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DR10 -0.00 dB -13.26 dB 17:55 01 - Les Chants magnétiques Part 1 [flac]
DR10 -0.00 dB -12.87 dB 5:25 02 - Les Chants magnétiques Part 2 [flac]
DR15 -0.00 dB -22.09 dB 2:54 03 - Les Chants magnétiques Part 3 [flac]
DR12 -0.00 dB -13.15 dB 6:12 04 - Les Chants magnétiques Part 4 [flac]
DR13 -0.00 dB -16.06 dB 3:31 05 - Les Chants magnétiques Part 5 [flac]
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Number of files: 5
Official DR value: DR12

Sampling rate: 44100 Hz
Average bitrate: 844kbs
Bits per sample: 16 bit

Dr14 T.meter 1.0.16
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2014 remaster:

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Analyzed: Magnetic Fields [2014 remaster] / Artist: Jean Michel Jarre
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DR Peak RMS Duration Title [codec]
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DR8 -0.09 dB -10.18 dB 17:57 01 - Magnetic Fields, Part 1 [flac]
DR10 -0.15 dB -11.15 dB 3:58 02 - Magnetic Fields, Part 2 [flac]
DR11 -0.20 dB -14.76 dB 4:09 03 - Magnetic Fields, Part 3 [flac]
DR9 -0.09 dB -9.80 dB 6:25 04 - Magnetic Fields, Part 4 [flac]
DR9 -0.10 dB -10.55 dB 3:29 05 - Magnetic Fields, Part 5 [flac]
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Number of files: 5
Official DR value: DR9

Sampling rate: 44100 Hz
Average bitrate: 935kbs
Bits per sample: 16 bit

Dr14 T.meter 1.0.16
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So yeah, the 1987 CD release is probably the same as the 1991 remaster.
Post Posted Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:18 pm
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1983 CD
1983.mp3
(469.83 KiB) Downloaded 69 times
1987 CD
1987.mp3
(469.75 KiB) Downloaded 72 times
1991 CD
1991.mp3
(469.79 KiB) Downloaded 71 times
1997 CD:
1997.mp3
(469.79 KiB) Downloaded 67 times
2014 CD:
2014.mp3
(469.77 KiB) Downloaded 63 times
Post Posted Sat Oct 07, 2023 9:27 pm
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Magnetic Fields 1:

1983 red label CD:
1983.png
1987 remaster:
1987.png
1991 remaster:
1991.png
1997 remaster:
1997.png
2014 remaster:
2014.png
Post Posted Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:22 pm
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Thank you Dr Jones

Some additional analytics of the other versions I have :

The polydors of the 80's :

1- Polydor WG 800024-2 01

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Analyzed: Jean Michel Jarre / Magnetic Fields
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR11 -1.76 dB -15.89 dB 17:58 01-Magnetic Fields (Part 1)
DR13 -1.52 dB -16.23 dB 4:00 02-Magnetic Fields (Part 2)
DR14 -2.60 dB -20.78 dB 4:25 03-Magnetic Fields (Part 3)
DR13 -2.06 dB -18.05 dB 6:07 04-Magnetic Fields (Part 4)
DR12 -3.09 dB -18.92 dB 3:32 05-Magnetic Fields (Part 5)
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Number of tracks: 5
Official DR value: DR13

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 778 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================

2- Polydor WG 800024-2 02


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Analyzed: Jean-Michel Jarre / Magnetic Fields
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR12 0.00 dB -15.01 dB 17:50 01-Magnetic Fields Part 1
DR14 0.00 dB -16.28 dB 4:00 02-Magnetic Fields Part 2
DR18 -0.99 dB -22.80 dB 4:16 03-Magnetic Fields Part 3
DR15 -0.30 dB -17.44 dB 6:18 04-Magnetic Fields Part 4
DR13 -1.83 dB -17.72 dB 3:30 05-Magnetic Fields Part 5
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Number of tracks: 5
Official DR value: DR15

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 877 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================


3-Polydor WG 800024-2 03


Analyzed: Jean Michel Jarre / Magnetic Fields
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR12 0.00 dB -15.01 dB 17:50 01-Magnetic Fields (Part 1)
DR14 0.00 dB -16.27 dB 4:00 02-Magnetic Fields (Part 2)
DR18 -0.99 dB -22.80 dB 4:16 03-Magnetic Fields (Part 3)
DR15 -0.30 dB -17.44 dB 6:18 04-Magnetic Fields (Part 4)
DR13 -1.83 dB -17.72 dB 3:30 05-Magnetic Fields (Part 5)
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Number of tracks: 5
Official DR value: DR15

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 875 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================




4- FDM CD-18108

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Analyzed: Jean Michel Jarre / Les Chants Magnetiques
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR14 -0.75 dB -17.16 dB 17:54 01-Les Chants Magnetiques (Part 1)
DR15 -1.75 dB -18.45 dB 4:00 02-Les Chants Magnetiques (Part 2)
DR19 -3.11 dB -25.55 dB 4:15 03-Les Chants Magnetiques (Part 3)
DR15 -3.09 dB -21.36 dB 6:19 04-Les Chants Magnetiques (Part 4)
DR13 -3.84 dB -20.35 dB 3:30 05-Les Chants Magnetiques (Part 5)
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Number of tracks: 5
Official DR value: DR15

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 805 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================


5- FDM 36142-2

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Analyzed: Jean Michel Jarre / Les Chants Magnetiques
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR12 0.00 dB -15.04 dB 17:50 01-Les Chants Magnetiques Part 1
DR15 0.00 dB -17.31 dB 5:25 02-Les Chants Magnetiques Part 2
DR14 -5.39 dB -22.83 dB 2:55 03-Les Chants Magnetiques Part 3
DR15 -0.26 dB -17.48 dB 6:13 04-Les Chants Magnetiques Part 4
DR13 -1.83 dB -17.75 dB 3:30 05-Les Chants Magnetiques Part 5
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Number of tracks: 5
Official DR value: DR14

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 880 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================

when it comes to sound:

- Both Polydor WG 800024-2 02 and Polydor WG 800024-2 03 are identical sound and dynamics.
and both sound noticebaly brighter than Polydor WG 800024-2 01 .

- The Disques Dreyfus WG FDM CD 18108, less bright than Both WG 800024-2 02 and WG 800024-2 03, but brighter than WG 800024-2 01.
actually I liked how it sounds compared to them.

- The 97 remastered, I don't like because the bass is exaggerated, feels like Rap or Euro Dance! ...
but if you just reduce bass by equalizer it will sound fine.

- The later remasters has a unique tone.. if you want something sound really different from all other past masterings (more depth?), I think you can try them. they are loud though.

- The 1991: this one
https://www.discogs.com/es/release/8740 ... 3%A9tiques

sound similar to the Polydor WG 800024-2 02 ... though it was issued in 1991, it is not mentioned that it was remastered.

I think the one mentioned by Dr Jones , is this :
https://www.discogs.com/es/release/1520 ... 3%A9tiques

isn't it?
Post Posted Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:04 am
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Magnetic fields2 wrote: Sat Oct 07, 2023 11:22 pm I think the one mentioned by Dr Jones , is this :
https://www.discogs.com/es/release/1520 ... 3%A9tiques

isn't it?
Yes, correct. I own Equinoxe and Oxygene from that series (colorful CD label and black bar at the right back of the CD box) and they are the same as the "golden border" remasters (which are identical to the late 80s remasters).
Post Posted Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:13 am
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I compared your post with my copy of the red label Polydor Magnetic Fields I have, because the values of your 800 024-2 [??] didn't match with mine. I confirm I have a 800 024-2 [02] (and not a [01] as I previously thought... guess I have to dig out some money for a [01] copy) but my copy has a DR19 for Magnetic Fields 3, instead of the DR18 in your post... But it matches the CD-18108 values.

I will update my post for completeness.
Post Posted Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:52 am
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update


The Polydor WG 800024-2 04

is typical dynamics and soundwise to the WG 800024-2 03
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Analyzed: Jean-Michel Jarre / Magnetic Fields (800024-2 04)
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DR Peak RMS Duration Track
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DR12 0.00 dB -15.01 dB 17:50 01-Magnetic Fields Part 1
DR14 0.00 dB -16.28 dB 4:00 02-Magnetic Fields Part 2
DR18 -0.99 dB -22.80 dB 4:16 03-Magnetic Fields Part 3
DR15 -0.30 dB -17.44 dB 6:18 04-Magnetic Fields Part 4
DR13 -1.83 dB -17.72 dB 3:30 05-Magnetic Fields Part 5
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Number of tracks: 5
Official DR value: DR15

Samplerate: 44100 Hz
Channels: 2
Bits per sample: 16
Bitrate: 877 kbps
Codec: FLAC
================================================================================
Post Posted Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:25 am
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Dr_Jones wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:13 am I compared your post with my copy of the red label Polydor Magnetic Fields I have, because the values of your 800 024-2 [??] didn't match with mine. I confirm I have a 800 024-2 [02] (and not a [01] as I previously thought.
It seems that I confused the 02 with the 03
sorry

I checked again and found out that the 02 is different from 03 ... they are not typical neither in sound nor in dynamics.04 is typical with 03 ....

to sum up :

01 sounds the most dull in all of them ..02 is brighter , 03 and 04 both typical and sound brighter than 02.
I like 02 the best . but I think analogue sound lovers will enjoy 01.







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