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To be very honest...JMJ knows exactly what he has done or not...fans don't.
What JMJ doesn't know as good is how his work looks from the "outside" of his creating bubble.
I think as an artist to find new inspiration he will need all kinds of criticism -good, up lifting and (sometimes)bad.
But I could be wrong.

I got the CD+DVD+3D glasses for christmas and I love it I also got hold of a promo CD with Oxygene 4 that will arive shortly

The new songs are really great. This is what he should be doing instead of that crap Teo & Tea.

Yes, I know I haven't been areound and that my server is down. The first thing I can fix but I'm not sure about the secon one. My computer is a bit broken and I'm living in a new apartement now with a beautiful girl

jeanbatman wrote:I didn't have the courage to look over the 96 or so pages of comments of the DVD. So beg me to talk over something that might have been explained dozens of times...
I'm listening to the new master of Oxygène, it is so close to the original, it's hard to believe it has been re-recorded...
But I noticed several new sounds to gather in in Oxygène 2007, especially a very freaky noise in Oxygène IV at 3:38. Are there others ?

About the play-back thread, I think sometimes things get to a point where they are a bit out-of-sense, in my humble opinion... There's a song from Michael Jackson that says "Leave me alone", and that would be a great title for JMJ's next album, if he doesn't get sick about all those sad commentaries.

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Well I for one think that the remaster is simply just the original tapes recorded onto a new medium at a higher bit depth and resolution and not a rerecording,this is obviously a get out clause for copyrights with dreyfus and by rendering certain tracks(Most notiably Part 4 ) slightly different mix wise,like for instance there is a delay on one of the "Fssh" sound towards the end of the song which is so obvious it was meant to be delayed to make it sound different from the orginal,as well as the missing Phaser Mod on the MP7,which would suggest Jarre did all those during Mixdown on the original,so obviously still has an archive of those individual tracks as he's used them for Live performances in the Past and plus the Glock sound,the 2 notes in the intro wind section,has a high amount of background noise,which if rerecorded in such high definition audio Quality Jarre would have been able to eliminate that or at the least notice it?you cna hear it even at Low listening levels.

To me that suggests that the tracks were taken from the original tapes for this mix,any clean rerecording wouldn't contain that Noise,when its pretty much non Audiable in the original,because it wasn't recorded onto analog machines an the frequencies would have been saturated so that it wouldn't be noticable on lower rate playback,hence why its now noticable in this newer Version.



Jarre couldn't record that exact a second time some 30 years later,the VCS FX in Part 2 are impossible to replicate like the original,if you understand the EMS synth make up Jarre himself has even admitted in the past he couldn't replicate them exact as they were played by hand almost intuitiavly,so howcome some years later they are the same,infact the same as the ones he used for AERO Versions too,A little funny seeing as he said he wouldn't be able to replicate most of them and he can't do it for these Live perfromances neither,infact the sound he Triggers is so far removed from it.!!!!!!

the majority of Oxygene Album was played by hand,so if that was such the case that he could rerecord it exactly this time for this remaster then the live Performances we have seen would be more closer to the originals,which they are not for at least 75%,they are only sound wise in some cases...He can't even play half of the tracks parts live correctly,so why would it be exact for a rerecording,he'd either have to have some technically good players or have everything Midi'ed up for replication so close,given the Instruments Doubt it so much...Its simply a souped up original version.

I just don't buy it as a rerecording,call me Fickle,pedantic or whatever. or I can say the old well I'm a musician so I know Bullshit line,No I'm not Jarre's righthand man neither so How could I be sure line too,Anyone who beleives its a rerecording Remaster simply hasn't listened to the orignal Oxygene close enough.its simply not a rerecording.Jarre may have revisited the Mixing side of it,but he certainly didn't play it all again

It pretty obvious its all about the Copyrights,that he has to make it seem like it was rerecorded,when its plain to Hear it wasn't..

I've said so from the start. There are even sound artifacts that show up at the precise same spots in the "re-recording". The bass in Part I does end differently, though.

The bubbling effect also interrupts the RMI solo in the end of Oxygene 4 much later than on previous releases. One of the things from the new master that I actually like

Well, it seems that anything that Jean Michel releases these days, his 'fans' can't wait to rip it to pieces, tear it apart and find as many faults with it as possible. Everyone said when news of this album was released, "yeah, Jean Michel's gone back to analogues", after ripping apart the TEO & TEA album, only to go and start picking out all the faults with his latest offering...very sad!!

so?

Well it's a bit sad isn't it. TEO & TEA gets released, practically everyone says it's shit, and to go back to what he does best. So he goes back to what he does best, and people start disecting it and picking out all the faults...again!! Why can't you just sit back, relax, and enjoy the music rather than scrutinising it for all its 'errors'. Oh yeah, nice reply to my last post 'so?'...very mature

Yeah I know, that was an ever so slight exageration

Hmm, I deleted my post because I reread your post and you wrote "practically."

Okay, what I wrote was:

Not "everyone" has that opinion on "Téo & Téa.

Absolutely, I can quite happily sit and listen to TEO & TEA, might not be 'traditional' Jarre, but I like it. It's down to personal taste at the end of it all.

Yes, I only heard Vintage yesterday and still it the same when I first heard it. One of my favourite tracks from the album.

I know i also made critics about that 5-10% ( ) of playback (?)...
I know i should not have come up with this again, mostly when Jarre is doing for what we have been waiting for long time...

Sadly some will never be satisfied but still want to fight a battle that they cannot win.