La Concorde fireworks and visuals question


Post Posted Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:07 pm
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AERO62 wrote: Where's your sense of humor.. I was just kidding.
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Post Posted Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:28 pm
Finaero
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I'm sorry, but I think the Place de la Concorde videotape is one of the saddest releases ever. Note that I haven't seen it but from what I've understood, the entire "gig" has been filmed inside a dark studio with some live footage spliced in at times. And to think that at one point (2007ish) copies of it were sold for hundreds of euros on eBay. However, the actual live broadcast of the concert (as available on YouTube as of a few days ago) has great cultural and historical (not just JMJ's own but music history in general, IMO) value.

I quite like the Concorde single version of Equinoxe 7 and I actually was a bit surprised that it wasn't actually played during the concert itself, but then again, many other live album/video tracks have plentiful of studio additions as well. Some are nice, like the sound effects in Equinoxe 4 PLD played through most of the track (instead of just once as you can hear in the radio broadcast) but I still think that the original Francis Rimbert solo during Ethnicolor in the Lyon 1986 concert was better!
Post Posted Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:16 pm
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Finaero wrote:I'm sorry, but I think the Place de la Concorde videotape is one of the saddest releases ever. Note that I haven't seen it but from what I've understood, the entire "gig" has been filmed inside a dark studio with some live footage spliced in at times. And to think that at one point (2007ish) copies of it were sold for hundreds of euros on eBay. However, the actual live broadcast of the concert (as available on YouTube as of a few days ago) has great cultural and historical (not just JMJ's own but music history in general, IMO) value.

I quite like the Concorde single version of Equinoxe 7 and I actually was a bit surprised that it wasn't actually played during the concert itself, but then again, many other live album/video tracks have plentiful of studio additions as well. Some are nice, like the sound effects in Equinoxe 4 PLD played through most of the track (instead of just once as you can hear in the radio broadcast) but I still think that the original Francis Rimbert solo during Ethnicolor in the Lyon 1986 concert was better!
I don't care that much of the official videotape, it has almost nothing to do with the concert, however I imagine it was quite entertaining seeing all of the special effects at that time as well as Jarre's equipment.

What frustrates me is the tv version because visuals are not on buildings and there's not a lot of footage of the actual concert, I mean -yea there are fireworks, and Jean Michel on stage..but direct images kinda ruin it. The editing is bad and it doesn't convey the whole scale of the event.. That's what I was trying to say. If this is translated correctly, then I agree:
The concert was broadcast live on TF 1 as part of a special show entitled "Paris Bleu Blanc Rouge". The director had integrated the images that were projected onto the buildings' facades (?), which allows them to be in the 'spotlight'(?) but does not capture the show itself. At the end, the film focuses heavily on the fireworks forgetting the rest. In short it gives an idea of the concert, without fully recreating the atmosphere.
Post Posted Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:14 pm
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Finaero wrote:I'm sorry, but I think the Place de la Concorde videotape is one of the saddest releases ever. Note that I haven't seen it but from what I've understood, the entire "gig" has been filmed inside a dark studio with some live footage spliced in at times.
What is sad about it? Clearly it does not pretend to be a concert film. For whatever reasons, they decided to make something else, what they called a video concert. In this context, "video" refers to video graphics, video effects, digital editing, which was new at that time, and I 100% convinced that Jarre saw this new medium of video graphics as another way to visualise his music. Kinda a visual version of his music; it has the same abstractness, the same flowing style, the same morphing quality. It is only sad if you think of it as a concert documentary - but it isnt!

Today, people flock to art galleries to witness video graphics, and now it's called "video installation". I am pretty sure JMJ's video - relaased in a time when home video wasnt even big yet - was concieved as a video installation, or audio-visual abstract art. The description on the VHS cover also supports this.

You may have to see the video to understand this - just dont judge it as a concert recording. Because it isnt. It would be like judging any Jarre album in an Unplugged competition.







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