Re: Tour 2025
Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:20 am
First indoors show tonight? It will be much darker than those light Scandinavian summer nights. The lights, lasers and effects - already impressive - could look even better tonight.
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First indoors show tonight? It will be much darker than those light Scandinavian summer nights. The lights, lasers and effects - already impressive - could look even better tonight.
That's precisely why he wears them: because he plays the intro and the outro. As for the main theme - nobody can tell what notes he's actually hitting as it's quite fast, also the camera has a slight lag and motion blur. It's just a matter of hitting the keys fast according to the tempo (all notes have equal length so it's very mechanical) and that's it.Richard-Eastham wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:16 am I don't doubt your assessment on this and yet he wears those camera specs during O2 on this tour, showing his hands playing throughout the track. He hasn't done that previously for this track, I think before during the Electronica tour, it was for O8. A brave move?
If so....Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:30 amThat's precisely why he wears them: because he plays the intro and the outro. As for the main theme - nobody can tell what notes he's actually hitting as it's quite fast, also the camera has a slight lag and motion blur. It's just a matter of hitting the keys fast according to the tempo (all notes have equal length so it's very mechanical) and that's it.Richard-Eastham wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:16 am I don't doubt your assessment on this and yet he wears those camera specs during O2 on this tour, showing his hands playing throughout the track. He hasn't done that previously for this track, I think before during the Electronica tour, it was for O8. A brave move?
I tried to keep my eyes open for any Meet & Greet sessions in Helsinki, but I didn't see any. I guess he met some people privately, like the guy from Genelec (picture posted in this thread earlier).Xyxophas wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:57 am Does anyone know if JMJ met with fans after his shows in Oslo and Helsinki?
Yeah no, there would be more than "one", given how he is playing the outro. It genuinely sounds like someone trying to play it from memory after hearing it twice. As a musician he HAS TO know how bad it and unprofessional sounds. The whole "shy and fear hitting wrong notes" argument falls apart here. Why does he do it and why he can't learn to play that outro properly is beyond my comprehension.Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:40 am If so....
....he just kind of shy and does fear hitting one note incorrectly I think.
Ah, ok, this new sequence. I have mixed feelings about it. But I don't mind the sub-bass drops though!I mean those new notes or chords at exacly 2:02 and 3:58
I am watching that infamous outro more times. It's definitely live.Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 1:53 pmYeah no, there would be more than "one", given how he is playing the outro. It genuinely sounds like someone trying to play it from memory after hearing it twice. As a musician he HAS TO know how bad it and unprofessional sounds. The whole "shy and fear hitting wrong notes" argument falls apart here. Why does he do it and why he can't learn to play that outro properly is beyond my comprehension.Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:40 am If so....
....he just kind of shy and does fear hitting one note incorrectly I think.
Ah, ok, this new sequence. I have mixed feelings about it. But I don't mind the sub-bass drops though!I mean those new notes or chords at exacly 2:02 and 3:58
?Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:03 pm I am watching that infamous outro more times. It's definitely live.
Mess? Doubt. It's question of comprehension. He modifies the outro, compared to '76 version. I bet if he would play the original outro, then that would be bad, that he can't alter from the original. It's indeed OK to variate the note line.Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:56 pm?Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:03 pm I am watching that infamous outro more times. It's definitely live.
Yes, that's what I said. You know it's live because he's not doing a great job at playing it. The intro and the outro are live. The main theme is NOT LIVE (3:05-5:08). The outro (5:08 onwards) IS LIVE. He plays it relatively well until 5:41. At 5:35 he starts the ascending note sequence and then at 5:41 it all falls apart. He tries to do that ascending sequence again at 5:58 and it fails because the underlying chord changes in the meantime from Gm to Dm. It's a mess.
It's not a question of doubt or belief. He messes it up. He plays wrong notes over wrong chords. He stumbles, plays out of sync and struggles to find the next note. These are facts and any trained musician will tell you that. Looks like you are choosing to ignore them - fine with me, I don't need to convince anyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:09 pm Mess? Doubt. It's question of comprehension. He modifies the outro, compared to '76 version. I bet if he would play the original outro, then that would be bad, that he can't alter from the original. It's indeed OK to variate the note line.
One must not be trained musician...Jote wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:27 pmIt's not a question of doubt or belief. He messes it up. He plays wrong notes over wrong chords. He stumbles, plays out of sync and struggles to find the next note. These are facts and any trained musician will tell you that. Looks like you are choosing to ignore them - fine with me, I don't need to convince anyone ¯\_(ツ)_/¯Robi83 wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 3:09 pm Mess? Doubt. It's question of comprehension. He modifies the outro, compared to '76 version. I bet if he would play the original outro, then that would be bad, that he can't alter from the original. It's indeed OK to variate the note line.
Also full performance of MF2 in Oslo from the same person