JMJ is engaged in a major lawsuit because of a lie...


Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:42 pm
Antigoon

AERO is the lable, EMI is just a licencing partner...

What you sugest is allready in effect since 2004...





What did you think "the copyright of this sound recording is owned by AERO Productions, under exclusive licence to warner music" meant?
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:51 pm
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Jakob BC wrote:Well the Oxygene Tour is 100% new stuff, so at least that shouldn't be in a danger. It's a shame that JMJ cannot get the right to the original Oxygene recordings, so we won't have to hear more about Dreyfus. He's always a damn stick in the wheel.
I suppose Dreyfus is only interested in the "New Master Recording" CD.
Well. Not all tracks from Marginy + Oxy Tour were 100% new. Some old tapes with sequences wee used. But i supose Dreyfus is only interested in New Master Recording where all old tapes were used
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:56 pm
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Antigoon wrote:AERO is the lable, EMI is just a licencing partner...

What you sugest is allready in effect since 2004...
I'm talking about a total control over distribution,Logistics,financial matters,Marketing and all the other dealings of where copyright distribution come into play to which the Licensee deal with in the respective country,

AERO productions is the same as the JMJ/Dreyfus Brand which is plastered all over the older Album.EMI and Sony are merely a means to an end to where AERO productions simply don't have the weight behind them to be able to do marketing and all the other donkey work that a Large label would do so they license the product out to a larger subsidary who have more market Domination

This is where I'm talking about a total independent label run by JMJ not just a management Level criteria,AERO Productions don't work Like a distributor,they are simply a company who trades under a Name brand but works with another company who do the Work for them,in this case EMI,otherwise he wouldn't have needed EMI,AERO productions is simply just a Brand name for Jarres entourage and to which his Music copyright it owned its certainly not a Label

If he had his own label he could take care of every aspect of it
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:00 pm
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radek tymecki wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:Well the Oxygene Tour is 100% new stuff, so at least that shouldn't be in a danger. It's a shame that JMJ cannot get the right to the original Oxygene recordings, so we won't have to hear more about Dreyfus. He's always a damn stick in the wheel.
I suppose Dreyfus is only interested in the "New Master Recording" CD.
Well. Not all tracks from Marginy + Oxy Tour were 100% new. Some old tapes with sequences wee used. But i supose Dreyfus is only interested in New Master Recording where all old tapes were used
I suppose all sounds from Marigny and the DVD were 100% new, if not live then recorded before the actual show.
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:11 pm
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So how many successful bands and artists of the past (and maybe present) have their own labels with total control like that?
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 8:28 pm
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Dreyfus must have known about this for months and could have acted a lot earlier. If he really thought that JMJ had used the original material all he to do was take out an injunction against MOS to prevent it releasing the CD.
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:42 pm
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Finaero wrote:You know, the actual lawsuit against MOS doesn't bother me but EMI wanting to withdraw the money they gave to Jarre might mean they're not very pleased with him at all and might in fact result in a loss of a major sponsor for the concerts. :? :\
I don't belive in loss of sponsors.
The tour has been waited for long time and tickets are being sold well.
If tour will be succesful, sponsors will remain. :wink:
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Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:15 pm
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Finaero wrote:So how many successful bands and artists of the past (and maybe present) have their own labels with total control like that?
I have only heard about smaller electronic music producers. They have kind of a netwok. Especially in The Netherlands you'll find alot, though i don't know how much control they have. There are labels like Viewlexx, Bunker Records and Clone which are mainly owned by musicians. No matter what this is on a lower scale.

I just checked up on labels like Interscope and Death Row, but they are owned by Universal now. It seems like most of these labels owned by musicians, are somehow related to the bigger companies.
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:15 pm
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Last year I put a caption to this image. So, after recent events, I think I will come back to that caption again as it seems to fit.

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Francis Dreyfus: "Got a match?"

Jean Michel Jarre: "Yes, my arse, your face"
Jarre concerts attended - Destination Docklands 1988 - Paris La Defense 1990 - Europe In Concert 1993 (Manchester & London) - Oxygene Tour 1997 (Birmingham)

"A group of men and woman entered the laboratory one month ago to live in a smell free world. Body odour, sweaty arms pits and smelly feet are to create the energy to survive. A total mystery surrounds this experiment, and it's project code name: B.O and Smell'i "
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:44 pm
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Finaero wrote:So how many successful bands and artists of the past (and maybe present) have their own labels with total control like that?
Francis Rimbert? :hypocrit:
"The worst thing in any form of art is to be betrayed by your own habits."
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Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:49 pm
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It does seem like Dreyfus is hacked off with the recent 'Mail On Sunday' give away cd's. He hasn't come forward until now, and right ontop of the free promo's.
Jarre concerts attended - Destination Docklands 1988 - Paris La Defense 1990 - Europe In Concert 1993 (Manchester & London) - Oxygene Tour 1997 (Birmingham)

"A group of men and woman entered the laboratory one month ago to live in a smell free world. Body odour, sweaty arms pits and smelly feet are to create the energy to survive. A total mystery surrounds this experiment, and it's project code name: B.O and Smell'i "
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:24 pm
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JMJ can get away with this. The new Oxygene sounds a lot like the old one, that's true, but it's a few minutes longer, sounds different here and there, noise and crackles at other times, and the same instruments are used. And they are used by the same artist. Why shouldn't it sound a bit like the original?

If there's a lawsuit, one of us should go and testify :-)
Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:30 pm
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Yep...free stuff is a real pain in the arse, isn't it? :P :smoke:

Was the old master tape in 24bit/96kHz?

If not, don't you need to re-record it to achieve this? :roll:

sorry for a noob here :P
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Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:36 pm
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I just read that on the French forum just this minute. :wink:

Great news!!!!!! :clap3:

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Post Posted Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:47 pm
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Oh, right, so don't worry, for all those who want to remain with us on 15th, we will have to eat one day, and as I'm not that rich, I'll maybe go at McDo' :P







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