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Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:38 pm
by DJoA
shadow wrote:We've heard pieces here and there over the years that don't seem to appear on either the CD or vinyl release, so we know that there's at least something more to it than the 47 minute version. The question is, is that actually part of a longer version, possible alternate version or just part that was edited out for various reasons.
Well, there is one person who knows more about it.. JMJ himself... Why not ask him? Use Kanta, she is very "close" with him ;) :P

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2018 9:25 am
by AERO62
Well, somebody has finally interviewed JMJ a bit more thoroughly and found out that there is in fact an unedited version which lasts 77 minutes. And it is the one that is playing before the concerts.... So that's probably the only chance to capture it. :D

The info came from the fb fan group. It will be mentioned somewhere in here in part 3 I'm assuming. http://domino.elfworld.org/the-journey- ... d1X9xaCS6Q

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:52 am
by 1906
I've got a version of 59'52". It contains material not found on the album version.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:28 pm
by shadow
Curious if we'll ever het the entire thing, I really like the track.

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2018 3:28 pm
by shadow
Curious if we'll ever het the entire thing, I really like the track.

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 3:54 pm
by AERO62
1906 wrote:I've got a version of 59'52". It contains material not found on the album version.
Hi, could you please share it somewhere?

Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:09 pm
by plate of chips
Much appreciated Elf
Elf wrote: http://domino.elfworld.org/the-journey- ... p-playing/

From JmJ
"The original version of Waiting for Cousteau is 75 minutes,
but it’s only 47 on the album (22 minutes on the LP). And nothing in the piece is repeated, not one single moment.
So, every time you hear a *plink* on the piano, that’s your finger, actually hitting the key?
– Yes, exactly.

Whereas various listeners attached themselves to JmJ saying various interviews software responsible for WFC.

Whilst I always maintained there is No computer program in 1990 No AI in 2019 that could display depth profoundness piano WFC.


Why would JmJ many times say it was software ?


Simply because JmJ revealed his innermost profound self for the first time on record.
Therafter realising what he had done JmJ wanted to distract listeners from this.


Notice fluffy jolly Calypso 1 that we accept as JmJ "we know" balances WFC profoundness.

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:02 pm
by AERO62
Too bad the interviewer made no effort to ask for a copy of the 75 original... Or maybe he did, but we'll never know.

P.S. What user named '1906' has mentioned is false. His 60 min file is just one of those sliced copy-paste edits that have been circulating through this thread.

Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 12:58 pm
by The Sound-Oven
A pity Francis fell out with JMJ and became unreasonable. I would still love to hear Experimental 2001 someday. And all of AOR. I guess Experimental 2001 would've sounded something like the Bourges Audio Brunch 2002 music (and it probably is some of that music I bet)

And WFC is one of my very fav tracks! I'd love to hear the full 75 mix :)

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:26 pm
by AERO62
Elf wrote:
AERO62 wrote:Too bad the interviewer made no effort to ask for a copy of the 75 original... Or maybe he did, but we'll never know.
What do you mean, you'll never know? Just ask. But no, I didn't ask for the full verison. Why would I?
Um, why wouldn't you? :|

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 1:57 pm
by AERO62
Elf wrote:
AERO62 wrote:
Elf wrote: What do you mean, you'll never know? Just ask. But no, I didn't ask for the full verison. Why would I?
Um, why wouldn't you? :|
I should ask the artist for a copy so that I could spread it to fans? Why on Earth should Jarre do that? I would be rude of me to ask such a question.
Well in that case you could've asked if he planned to ever release it along with Experimental 2001, and hinted that he should release it as part of some kind of extras for fans ...

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 4:02 pm
by Dr_Jones
I mailed Dreyfus about Experimental 2001, but i haven't gotten any reply :-/

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 5:21 pm
by shadow
They're either never going to release it, or release it when they can easily cash in on Jarre's name for whatever reason. Which is a shame, because I'd love to hear it.

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 1:21 am
by Jote
shadow wrote:They're either never going to release it, or release it when they can easily cash in on Jarre's name for whatever reason. Which is a shame, because I'd love to hear it.
The former, i.e. never. The latter option is not realistic - I doubt anyone will ever consider this album an easy cash. Let's not forget why this album was never released - the reason is that the album was, pardon my French, "utter sh8" and it was delievered by JMJ only because he wanted to get out of the Sony/FDM relationship. I honestly doubt he (or whomever actually did it) put any effort into it, and even the album name is a clear indication of that (and was probably also a tongue-in-cheek justification of its alleged poor quality: "see, it's crap, because it's EXPERIMENTAL, get it?"). They will never release it, because they still make money selling GOOD JMJ albums and they most certainly will not want to jeopardize the "JMJ" brand. They didn't even want to release Sessions 2000 (and obviously since they kinda HAD to pick something they went with the "lesser evil" - i.e. S2K).

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:48 am
by Velodynamic
If Francis Dreyfus choice was S2k over Experimental 2001 (even if he hated both) as his last JMJ release I think the chances are overwhelming that E01 actually is one ugly duck.