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Oxymore. January 21, 22, 23 2021


Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:59 pm
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so there is no stereo version of OXYMORE ?
Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:58 pm
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nexxxus wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:59 pm so there is no stereo version of OXYMORE ?
I managed to grab a recording from the Radio France player using Audacity software. It was saved as 320kbps MP3 format and with the "stereo" setting on but I have no idea if that setting overwrote the original binauaral transmission. It sounds stereo to me, when I listen thru headphones but I'm no audio expert.
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Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 4:04 pm
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Also, thank you to all users - Oxygene and Herr Dunkel and others - who have pointed out the origins of the Oxymore title (English translation: Oxymoron) and it not being a throwback reference to Oxygene. At least, not overtly. I still agree with Plate of Chips though, that this word should have been avoided as the obvious (if erroneous) conclusion is it has something to do with the Oxygene brand. Unfortunate and misleading.

Anyway, all this is by the by, what really matters is...... just how unbelievably brilliant Oxymore Movement 11 is. Properly outstanding. His best track since, well, since I don't know when? Best track since Chronologie 6? That's how I feel about it right now.
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nexxxus wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:59 pm so there is no stereo version of OXYMORE ?
Not right now. The radio broadcast was binaural and I guess the concerts were too (but just like Richard, I'm not an audio expert)
Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:03 pm
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Jean Michel Jarre's new rig and setup for his oxymore!!! Plus he's doing vr stuff soon as well.

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Théâtre Marigny, Paris - 2007
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O2 Arena, London - 2010
Zénith Aréna, Lille - 2010
Port Hercule, Monaco - 2011
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Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:17 pm
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The press VR presentation mentioned an album release in september. They're planning to bring this VR set to festivals for people to experience with headsets and multi-speaker music.
Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:22 pm
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Jarregirl YouTube
Concerts attended:
Théâtre Marigny, Paris - 2007
Symphony Hall, Birmingham - 2008
RAH, London - 2008
Wembley Arena, London - 2009
NIA, Birmingham - 2009
POP Bercy, Paris - 2010
NIA, Birmingham - 2010
O2 Arena, London - 2010
Zénith Aréna, Lille - 2010
Port Hercule, Monaco - 2011
TUI Arena, Hannover - 2011
Festival International de Carthage - 2013
Barclaycard Arena, Birmingham - 2016
Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:18 pm
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Richard-Eastham wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:58 pm
nexxxus wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:59 pm so there is no stereo version of OXYMORE ?
I managed to grab a recording from the Radio France player using Audacity software. It was saved as 320kbps MP3 format and with the "stereo" setting on but I have no idea if that setting overwrote the original binauaral transmission.
There's no "binaural" vs "stereo" setting. A binaural recording is still de facto stereo as far as number of channels is concerned.
It sounds stereo to me, when I listen thru headphones but I'm no audio expert.
It's hard to tell when you have no frame of reference (i.e. haven't heard the original stereo mix - if it even exists, who knows, maybe Oxymore was done as binaural only).
Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:40 pm
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Jote wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:18 pm [It's hard to tell when you have no frame of reference (i.e. haven't heard the original stereo mix - if it even exists, who knows, maybe Oxymore was done as binaural only).
I guess there will be a stereo mix if it's getting its physical release.
Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:32 pm
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Dr_Jones wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:40 pm
Jote wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 9:18 pm [It's hard to tell when you have no frame of reference (i.e. haven't heard the original stereo mix - if it even exists, who knows, maybe Oxymore was done as binaural only).
I guess there will be a stereo mix if it's getting its physical release.
There could be, but TBH it doesn't have to. Unless it's a very gimmicky binaural mix with sounds traveling crazy between channels and all over the place (and from what I heard Oxymore isn't like that) a "binaural" version can pass a "stereo". It IS stereo after all, just with some phase trickery.
Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:36 pm
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The dynamic, shifting effects on the mp3 file I managed to grab are fairly restrained, no crazy fast movements. It certainly doesn't feel gimmicky.
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Post Posted Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:55 pm
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I made a mp3 version than I think the binaural version of the mp3 version of the france music webpage.
https://www.mediafire.com/file/20os4sg3 ... 4.mp3/file

I just cut the concert of the interview and amplified from thats mp3 : https://media.radiofrance-podcast.net/p ... 003-21.mp3
Post Posted Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:38 pm
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Richard-Eastham wrote: Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:36 pm The dynamic, shifting effects on the mp3 file I managed to grab are fairly restrained, no crazy fast movements. It certainly doesn't feel gimmicky.
I would say that this is due to the constraints of binaural processing which forces the dissociation of more advanced sounds than a simple stereo effect can provide. As a result, we focus less on the right/left dynamics but on the sound distribution of the global field heard. Yet I believe that the two are not incompatible and this dynamic be lacking in this mix of Oxymore.
Post Posted Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:58 pm
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Just listened to Oxymore for the first time - and first impression is hmm, I see why he released Amazonia rather this - as I think Amazonia was better. Amazonia is quite a bit more musical than Oxymore, which sounds like a lot of barely organised noise. Maybe that was the point though.

Definitely another case of Jarre pouring samples and sounds into one end of Eon, and slicing off an hours worth of output at the other and calling it an album, I feel.

Still, this is just a first impression - maybe it will grow on me.
Post Posted Sat Jan 29, 2022 4:08 pm
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Synner wrote: Sat Jan 29, 2022 3:58 pm Just listened to Oxymore for the first time - and first impression is hmm, I see why he released Amazonia rather this - as I think Amazonia was better. Amazonia is quite a bit more musical than Oxymore, which sounds like a lot of barely organised noise. Maybe that was the point though.

Definitely another case of Jarre pouring samples and sounds into one end of Eon, and slicing off an hours worth of output at the other and calling it an album, I feel.

Still, this is just a first impression - maybe it will grow on me.
Odd, I think it's the other way around. Amazonia is a lot less musical than Oxymore. Ok, it lacks melody, but there's clearly musical themes. And I understand that, because this is a tribute to Pierre Henry and if you listen to most of Henry's work, with keeping in mind that JMJ got stuff from Henry to work with, he did well to make anything musical :-)







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