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Welcome To The Other Side - Jean-Michel Jarre New Year Eve’s concert at Notre-Dame in VR


Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:38 am
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I was hoping for (but not really expecting) a bit more variation on the later Electronica tour versions.

I've got to admit, Equinoxe 4 is sort of a high point for me because the flying statues really fit that version of the track in the performance. Nice.

A nice touch for one of the new Alone Together tracks to be mixed into the start of Herbalizer.

And yeah, the fake audience noises are quite distracting (however, the ones on the album are even worse and sound like a "you won!" WAV file from a 1994 Win 3.11 CD poker game or something) - which is also why, despite the Cities in Concert (not In-Concert) version of Rendez-Vous 2 being my absolute favorite, I still wish there was a version of that one without the extra audience noise loops : <

(Speaking of which, given the (virtual) location, RV2 would have been a very nice surprise track ;))
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:46 am
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The usual omnia-dadwater distortion crap (especially with yt normalization). Someone (like Gesaffelstein) should wake up JMJ out of this recurring misleading loudness war nightmare.

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Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:49 am
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Finaero wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 8:38 am (Speaking of which, given the (virtual) location, RV2 would have been a very nice surprise track ;))
Would've preferred Chronologie 2. It would've been very easy to make it more EDMy. When I did my show in 2018 for a non-JMJ/non-electronica audience I went with Chrono 2, as it has a decent beat and enough happening in it to be interesting for the masses :)

Btw. in the post-show credits Marco Grenier and Kevin Large (otherwise known as "Ridwello") are listed as "production assistants". No Samard. I thought "well, perhaps he didn't do anything for this show", but I don't think Ridwello did much either (unless those Oxygene 2 and 4 reworks are his doings?)

Oh yes, an of course Dadwater is also in the end credits as well :>
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:58 am
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Notre Dame had devotional music over the centuries
so yeah beats heavy to rattle it's timbers  is alright.

Graphics were brilliant
although they should more parts of Notre Dame less of JmJ.

Laserharp brilliant surprise.
Oxy20 full version would been brilliant  opening.

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So JmJ you had all of lockdown this year to compose new tunes so what did you do ?
Really Poor you couldn't make  new tracks for Notre Dame.

To release this Poor tracklist as a "mixtape" is really low artistically musically
especially as 2 tracks are from other artists.
This doesn't fit an internationally renowned artist as you.

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As for tracks :

JmJ
Just drop Coachella opening already it's Cheesy europop. Replace with Heart of Noise.

Drop Equi4 for heaven's sake every concert ! :
I  used to love Equi4 now you have over played it.
JmJ if you are going to play something from equinoxe play thhedk Equinoxe7 EDM cover .

Exit is So out of place. Delete Exit replace with Electrees (hand simmer colab).

Oxygene  4 remix by astral projection is horrendous there's so many better trance edm oxy4 covers on YouTube for you to copy.
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:02 am
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VR recording. Seems better than the last endeavor, although there clearly is audio/video sync issue - clearly visible during the Stardust countdown.
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 10:44 am
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Jote wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 9:49 am Oh yes, an of course Dadwater is also in the end credits as well :>
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Please, stop this type of comments, if you have problem with the sound, please talk directly with Jean Michel.
No comment (and fb comment deleted).

First comment from a "gray zone" site:
Жуткая компрессия...
Official DR value: DR6
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Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 11:02 am
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By the way, have you noticed that this concert was pretty much (if not 100%) free of JMJ randomly triggering sound effects (like that dreaded "ah-ha" with syncopated echo)
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:31 pm
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Yeah, now that you mention it, I really didn't miss them.

I bought the Flacs from qobuz, let's see how much the DR is. Will post that later.

I like that JMJ remixed both the Oxygene remixes himself. They are better for that.
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:51 pm
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Dr_Jones wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:31 pm I bought the Flacs from qobuz, let's see how much the DR is. Will post that later.
Sorry, but it was money thrown out the window. It is not for you but for JMJ, who continually degrading himself to a businessman in the music industry. Those gaps between tracks... and the already mentioned lame, fake audience sounds and clapping... embarrassing. (And sounds awful on room equalized - frequency and phase - studio monitors.)
foobar2000 1.6.2 / Dynamic Range Meter 1.1.1
log date: 2021-01-01 12:50:06

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Analyzed: Jean Michel Jarre / Welcome To The Other Side (Concert From Virtual Notre-Dame)
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DR         Peak         RMS     Duration Track
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DR6       -1.19 dB    -8.65 dB      3:29 01-The Opening (VR Live)
DR6       -1.19 dB    -8.99 dB      4:33 02-Oxygene 2 (JMJ Rework of Kosinski Remix)
DR7       -1.19 dB    -9.90 dB      3:23 03-The Architect (VR Live)
DR7       -1.19 dB   -10.11 dB      3:46 04-Oxygene 19 (VR Live)
DR6       -1.19 dB    -9.66 dB      2:43 05-Oxygene 8 (VR Live)
DR6       -1.19 dB   -10.08 dB      4:35 06-Zero Gravity (VR Live)
DR7       -1.19 dB    -9.80 dB      4:56 07-Exit (VR Live)
DR6       -1.19 dB    -9.48 dB      3:22 08-Equinoxe 4 (VR Live)
DR6       -1.19 dB    -7.81 dB      2:52 09-Stardust (VR Live)
DR8       -1.19 dB   -10.67 dB      3:52 10-Herbalizer (VR Live)
DR7       -1.19 dB   -10.42 dB      3:38 11-Oxygene 4 (JMJ Rework of Astral Projection Remix)
DR6       -1.19 dB    -9.68 dB      4:09 12-The Time Machine (VR Live)
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Number of tracks:  12
Official DR value: DR6

Samplerate:        48000 Hz
Channels:          2
Bits per sample:   24
Bitrate:           1807 kbps
Codec:             FLAC
================================================================================
[1/12] 01 The Opening (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -8.77 LUFS / -14.23 LU
[2/12] 02 Oxygene 2 (JMJ Rework of Kosinski Remix).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.44 LUFS / -12.56 LU
[3/12] 03 The Architect (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -11.33 LUFS / -11.67 LU
[4/12] 04 Oxygene 19 (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.99 LUFS / -12.01 LU
[5/12] 05 Oxygene 8 (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.74 LUFS / -12.26 LU
[6/12] 06 Zero Gravity (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.84 LUFS / -12.16 LU
[7/12] 07 Exit (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.40 LUFS / -12.60 LU
[8/12] 08 Equinoxe 4 (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -9.63 LUFS / -13.37 LU
[9/12] 09 Stardust (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -8.38 LUFS / -14.62 LU
[10/12] 10 Herbalizer (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.53 LUFS / -12.47 LU
[11/12] 11 Oxygene 4 (JMJ Rework of Astral Projection Remix).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.79 LUFS / -12.21 LU
[12/12] 12 The Time Machine (VR Live).flac
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.22 LUFS / -12.78 LU
[ALBUM] .
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.23 LUFS / -12.77 LU
[COLLECTION]
  integrated (momentary mean): -10.23 LUFS / -12.77 LU
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Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 1:26 pm
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I'm a completist, so yeah...
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:36 pm
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czt wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:51 pm
Dr_Jones wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 12:31 pm I bought the Flacs from qobuz, let's see how much the DR is. Will post that later.
Sorry, but it was money thrown out the window.
Well, as long as they are lossless (they are, aren't they? ;) ) then there's some value in that.
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:45 pm
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Jote wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:36 pm Well, as long as they are lossless (they are, aren't they? ;) ) then there's some value in that.
Yeah, a real lossless dadwater omnia audio preset value :lol: (and maintaining the completeness of the JMJ collection).

If anybody saved this video, would be so kind to share with me?
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Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:42 pm
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Jote wrote: Thu Dec 17, 2020 2:29 pm TBH I wonder why this needs to be live at all. They could've recorded his entire "performance" and just replay it. He doesn't need to interact with the audience so nobody will be able to tell anyway and at least there wouldn't be f***-ups like that Ableton metronome last time.
Turns out I was right - it was indeed a pre-recorded performance. Someone confirmed that you could join the VR experience two minutes earlier than the actual broadcast started. Can't say that I blame them for doing that. I wonder what JMJ was actually doing during the broadcast ;)
Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:55 pm
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Jote wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 3:42 pm I wonder what JMJ was actually doing during the broadcast ;)
Filming themselves together with Gong Li with mobile cameras just like two teenagers and to teenager grade squashed mastered "music". :roll:
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Post Posted Fri Jan 01, 2021 4:26 pm
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Jote wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:36 pm Well, as long as they are lossless (they are, aren't they? ;) ) then there's some value in that.
24-Bit 48.0 kHz flac.
czt wrote: Fri Jan 01, 2021 2:45 pm If anybody saved this video, would be so kind to share with me?
I have it somewhere. but I can look into it next week at first; I'm not at home right now.







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