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[spoiler] Marigny, 15th December concert


Post Posted Tue Jan 08, 2008 12:10 pm
Robi


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Equinoxe5 wrote:
ralf wrote:Why MemoryMoog working perfect when JMJ playing solo in Oxy 2 and broken few seconds later??
That's life for ya !
Playback is all around you! No other interest from you regarding JMJ and his activities... :wink: :?
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Post Posted Tue Jan 08, 2008 1:28 pm
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There was un unrealesed music in this concert before Oxygene 12. Do you know the title ?
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Post Posted Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:31 pm
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Robi wrote:
Equinoxe5 wrote:
ralf wrote:Why MemoryMoog working perfect when JMJ playing solo in Oxy 2 and broken few seconds later??
That's life for ya !
Playback is all around you! No other interest from you regarding JMJ and his activities... :wink: :?
Who's that question for?.

If it's for me, I have heard recordings from those concerts and they don't sound like playback to me.
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Post Posted Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:35 pm
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Equi, not for you of course!
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Post Posted Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:57 pm
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hiram33 wrote:There was un unrealesed music in this concert before Oxygene 12. Do you know the title ?
There was no real title for that. I have only seen it described as an intro for Oxygene 12.
Post Posted Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:34 pm
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Jakob BC wrote:
hiram33 wrote:There was un unrealesed music in this concert before Oxygene 12. Do you know the title ?
There was no real title for that. I have only seen it described as an intro for Oxygene 12.

That right, although some pople have called it 'Variation IV' which is unconfirmed as fact.

While we're on this subject does anyone know what title - if any - is given to the music played over the 3D Gallery images on the 3D DVD ? :D
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Destination Docklands 1988
Paris la Defense 1990
Europe in Concert - Wembley Stadium 1993
Oxygene Tour - Wembley Arena 1997
Theatre Marigny Paris 2007
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Post Posted Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:14 am
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Pat Gleeson wrote:
Jakob BC wrote:
hiram33 wrote:There was un unrealesed music in this concert before Oxygene 12. Do you know the title ?
There was no real title for that. I have only seen it described as an intro for Oxygene 12.

That right, although some pople have called it 'Variation IV' which is unconfirmed as fact.

While we're on this subject does anyone know what title - if any - is given to the music played over the 3D Gallery images on the 3D DVD ? :D


The Music played on the 3D gallery is the Prelude
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Post Posted Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:35 am
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Dominc wrote:The Music played on the 3D gallery is the Prelude
No, it's a totally different track of 1 and a half minute which loops for 4 minutes.
Post Posted Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:39 am
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Okay. :D But please continue the discussion here about Oxygene 3D CD & DVD Box Set. :wink:
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Concerts attended:
Théâtre Marigny, Paris - 2007
Symphony Hall, Birmingham - 2008
RAH, London - 2008
Wembley Arena, London - 2009
NIA, Birmingham - 2009
POP Bercy, Paris - 2010
NIA, Birmingham - 2010
O2 Arena, London - 2010
Zénith Aréna, Lille - 2010
Port Hercule, Monaco - 2011
TUI Arena, Hannover - 2011
Festival International de Carthage - 2013
Barclaycard Arena, Birmingham - 2016
Post Posted Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:28 am
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Equinoxe wrote:
ralf wrote:Why MemoryMoog working perfect when JMJ playing solo in Oxy 2 and broken few seconds later??
Temperature fluctuations,the Memory Moogs were terribly unreliable instruments anyway,they suffered problems with Heat dissapation,they have one of the largest Heatsinks on the Back panel ever fitted to a synthesizer,A heatsink this size is usually fitted to amplifiers...so it just shows you the issues they had with trying to keep the Circuits at a steady temperature by removing the excess heat generated,add to that the Fluctutations of temperature throughout the Performance in the Theatre,recipe for a very Unstable Memory Moog..Something Jarre can do nothing about..as we can see.He would have been better to stop playing it ,then retune it after it had cooled slightly,trying to tune it whilst still playing is adding Electricity resistance to the circuits which generate the heat.
That's right but... Memorymoog has autotune function aswell ;) btw JMJ should play constantly one note (G or D - depends on tonation] to get better tune :) Anyway... It seemed a bit impossible because... VCO was controlled by LFO :) So probably he should set lfo to 0 or sth :)

Look at his hands. JMJ plays same note and You can hear pitch down/up's so I'm quite sure it was VCO's LFO
Post Posted Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:34 am
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radek tymecki wrote:
Equinoxe wrote:
ralf wrote:Why MemoryMoog working perfect when JMJ playing solo in Oxy 2 and broken few seconds later??
Temperature fluctuations,the Memory Moogs were terribly unreliable instruments anyway,they suffered problems with Heat dissapation,they have one of the largest Heatsinks on the Back panel ever fitted to a synthesizer,A heatsink this size is usually fitted to amplifiers...so it just shows you the issues they had with trying to keep the Circuits at a steady temperature by removing the excess heat generated,add to that the Fluctutations of temperature throughout the Performance in the Theatre,recipe for a very Unstable Memory Moog..Something Jarre can do nothing about..as we can see.He would have been better to stop playing it ,then retune it after it had cooled slightly,trying to tune it whilst still playing is adding Electricity resistance to the circuits which generate the heat.
That's right but... Memorymoog has autotune function aswell ;) btw JMJ should play constantly one note (G or D - depends on tonation] to get better tune :) Anyway... It seemed a bit impossible because... VCO was controlled by LFO :) So probably he should set lfo to 0 or sth :)

Look at his hands. JMJ plays same note and You can hear pitch down/up's so I'm quite sure it was VCO's LFO
I have the feeling that JMJ does not play the same way the Memorymoog when he plays the end of Oxy 2 and Oxy 4. When he plays Oxy 2 (or when he plays the EMS), he is concentrated, and when he plays Oxy 4, he "acts" a lot (big gestures, he seems self-confident, etc...). Should be interesting to compare all solos in Oxy 4. If they really look the same, and given the fact that it seems that JMJ played with the volume of the Memorymoog after Oxy 2, yes, the conclusion is obvious : Oxy 4 solo is NOT live.

Now.... The debate and the question : if Oxy 4 is not live, what can we say about that. Is it a rip-off, is it normal? The risk to badly play the end of Oxy 2 is lower than missing Oxy 4. I imagine that JMJ did not want to jeopardize the concert by missing the lead of Oxy 4, and knowing the fact that it may be harder to play than the female voice on the EMS, they decided to make it not live. That's a choice. Therefore Oxy live is a "mitigated" risk. That's not bad after all, that's art : a bit of mystification. Without a part of mystification it might be that Jarre would not be famous. And, even in the Oxygene LP, there is also some part of mystification. Mystification is the secret of the magic.

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Post Posted Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:55 pm
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I suggested this in other threads.... Yes.... JMJ is very concentrated when he plays live...

When he playbacks he's actin totally diffrent [as u suggested]
Post Posted Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:49 pm
chlu


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Hi Again

So here are the Link to the Photos I took from this Concert...

Jean Michel Jarre - 15.12.2007 Marigny; Paris


Greetings

chlu
Post Posted Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:43 pm
chlu


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WOW! how wonderful they are... I knew you're a good photographer dude
Post Posted Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:29 pm
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Many thanks for sharing your :pics:, Chlu. A pleasure to see them. :D
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Concerts attended:
Théâtre Marigny, Paris - 2007
Symphony Hall, Birmingham - 2008
RAH, London - 2008
Wembley Arena, London - 2009
NIA, Birmingham - 2009
POP Bercy, Paris - 2010
NIA, Birmingham - 2010
O2 Arena, London - 2010
Zénith Aréna, Lille - 2010
Port Hercule, Monaco - 2011
TUI Arena, Hannover - 2011
Festival International de Carthage - 2013
Barclaycard Arena, Birmingham - 2016







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